Harvest the Fatties as Horse Meat, and Other Gems of the Moral Panic

Today I saw one of the most inflammatory articles about the ‘obesity epidemic’ that I’ve seen in a while. It is an article that talks about how the ‘overweight and obese’ are more numerous than the hungry, planet-wide.

What’s truly alarming is that the International Federation for the Red Cross, a well-known humanitarian group, is taking this angle in order to — I don’t know what, get more donations for hunger programs by shaming the fatty-countries about our horrible fatness? Secretary Bekele Geleta gives a statement:

“If the free interplay of market forces has produced an outcome where 15 percent of humanity are hungry while 20 percent are overweight, something has gone wrong somewhere,” secretary general Bekele Geleta said in a statement.

What, pray tell, is wrong with that? Yes, it’s horrible that 15 percent of humanity is hungry. But why bring in the arbitrarily-defined overweight-and-obese in there, except in an attempt to indirectly correlate the prevalence of fat(ter) people with hunger? That is, it would seem this article implies that fat people are taking all the food and leaving nothing for the hungry people who need it more than those fat fatties. By the way, it’s not evil ‘market forces’ driving the a portion of the current spike in food prices — the subsidization of food like corn and demand for ethanol has a substantial effect on global food prices, making previously accessible foodstuffs inflate in price:

C. Ford Runge, a University of Minnesota professor of applied economics and law, argues that ethanol from crops has many “hidden costs” that should dissuade the government from subsidies.

Runge, who raised concerns about ethanol policy as early as 2007, says his research suggests some 30 percent of food price increases come from diversion of US corn for ethanol.

Blaming the ‘overweight and obese’ on rising food prices or hunger in the world is inflammatory at bottom. There is no correlation. Fat people are not taking the food out of the mouths of hungry infants. Yet an article which talks about the statistics of both would seem to suggest that very scenario. Shame on IFRC for resorting to such inhumane strategies in order to further their agenda. Guess fat people are okay to hate on, is that right, IFRC?

But they don’t stop there. The Asia-Pacific director of the IFRC goes on to say (without any references):

Asia-Pacific director Jagan Chapagain called [more overweight people than hungry people] a “double-edged scandal” at a press conference in the Indian capital, adding that “excess nutrition now kills more than hunger.” [clarification mine]

While “double-edged scandal” has a nice ring to it, that’s all it has. Could you use more moralized language than “scandal” to describe the prevalence of fat(ter) people? And I would love to see the stats on hordes of people dying because they’re choking on their own fat. Or any article that doesn’t conflate diseases for which fat is a risk factor (and usually a much, much smaller risk factor than, say, family history) as the cause of those diseases, hence counting death due to heart disease, cancers, and diabetes as deaths by fatness (which is usually how the ‘fat deaths’ numbers are generated).

This article was meant to inflame. The words of the individuals at the IFRC (shame on you!) were meant to inflame. And that’s just what they did.

I haven’t seen such blatant hate in comments on an article…well, ever. And I’ve read a lot of comments on public sites shaming fat people. I know this is Yahoo News. I know they have some of the worst reporting and moderation in the biz. Still, I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading. I felt the need to record it here, so that fat-hate deniers—and don’t we all know one of those, who says we just need to buck up and there’s no such thing as fat oppression and it’s just all in our fatty fat-filled heads?—can see for themselves just how bad it is. Just how deep it goes. That fat-haters really, really do want us to die. Sometimes they want to kill us themselves.

TRIGGER WARNING. Don’t go any further if you can’t stomach some of the worst fat-hate I’ve ever seen.

Please. Turn back now, if you’re at all sensitive to this stuff.

Okay. Here goes. Quoting from the comments in no particular order, without attribution or linking. I’ll link to the original article at the bottom of the post, if you really, really want to see these things for yourself.

Fat lazy pigs will bring this country to it’s knees. When I’m in the grocery and I see a fat mom with her fat kids with a cart full of soda,chips, frozen chicken ect……… I just want to smack ’em all right in their fat faces. I am a fataphobe. My girlfriend of 11 years just decided one day to stop exercising with me and started fast food -FAST FOOD people! Who the F eats that crap? She gained weight—quickly. I dumped her ass. If she wants to get fat and lazy she ain’t gonna do it around me.

I’m glad she dodged that bullet.

The next are a collection of comments that suggest we resort to cannibalism:

1. Cut slabs of meat off the fat people, and feed it to the skinny people.

2. When things get really bad, a starving person should be allowed to eat one obese person per year.

3. Ultimate Robin Hood: Liposuction the fat to feed the skinny.

4. So, harvest the fatties; ship them to the Third World; and sell them as “horse” meat.

5. Oh good. The potential food supply (fatties) now outnumbers the hungry.

6. Let the hungry people eat the obese people. Problem solved! [there are about a dozen of these that say basically the same exact thing, not going to mention them all here]

Lovely. Let me observe that the people who make cannibalistic comments aren’t getting a thrill from the idea of eating fat people — I’m sure they think we’re disgusting and riddled with disease. Rather, it’s the murder and torture of fat people that gets their rocks off.

But remember, we’re not just good to eat. We’re also a next-generation fuel source!

In terms of Karma, maybe the obese are the poor’s food supply when collapse happens, or in light vege-oil diesel, maybe a new energy supply? I wonder how far you could drive on one fat person?

By the way, did you notice the moralistic use of “Karma” in the comment above? Fat people are sinners by virtue of existence. We have done wrong, and we’re going to get our comeuppance one of these days, isn’t that right? I suppose that implies the thin are sainted by virtue of existence. Good to know!

Goes hand in hand with a record 48 Million getting food stamps that they don’t need!

Oh yes, let’s add people to the numbers of hungry on this planet. It’s good for them. They committed the sin of fat and hence need to atone, while the sainted thin can eat as their reward for being thin.

Of course, there is the perennial tendency to conflate the stats of ‘overweight and obese’ — which are relatively large — with the prevalence of the kind of very fat people used as strawmen in pictures on these articles, who comprise far less than 10% of the ‘overweight and obese.’

I have 2 words for the morbidly obese: STOP EATING!!

Which translates to: Die, fatty! Clever.

Here are a few comments to illustrate that the inflammatory rhetoric of the IFRC, and indirect implication that fat fatties are taking food out of the mouths of hungry babies, has achieved its intended effect:

1. So if the obese cut back on eating and gave this good to the hungry we would solve two problems.

2. So the obese people are numerous and pressuring the food supplies needed by the truly hungry. food stamps is really working. How come so many so fat with no job? Wonderful.

3. Sounds like the obese need to give some food to the hungry.

And remember, there are no fat people in concentration camps:

Why can’t we do an “exchange” program with countries like Ethiopia and Somalia. We’ll send a bunch of Fat Americans to poor countries with no food so they can go on a “boot camp survivor diet” and the starving Somali’s can come here and eat McDonald’s and get fat.

Also make sure to snark the standard headless fatty on the article, and link fat people to yet another social problem, this time to the failure of the Post Office:

Hey, thats a picture of my mail lady! I can tell because her thighs always rub together as she waddles down the street at a snails pace! I wonder why the Postal system is in the trash can?

Another gem:

Force the obese people to take the positions of the hungry and the hungry the positions of the obese. Switch their jobs, homes, money, everything. The hungry could use a bit lifting up and the obese could use a very large lesson of humility instead of wasting all their money and time on food!

Those goddamn uppity fatties! Their problem is that they’re not humble enough. We need to teach those fatties a lesson. How dare they spend their own money and time on food? How dare they smugly eat while people are starving, people who deserve to have their jobs, home, money, and time more than those horrible fat fatties who are so horrible because they are fat? Skinny hungry people wouldn’t spend their money and time on food! Oh, no. They’d all go jog in the park and each single leaves of lettuce for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and think it was a feast! Goddamn fatties.

Also, did you know thin(ner) people can predict the future? It’s BMI-tastic!

Life expectancy has increased every year since 1900. It’s expected to start going down for the first time in a long time. Why? Obese people. How you can let yourself get to 300 pounds is unfathomable to me.

Everyone over 300 pounds is a broken, horrible person who is killing us all and inflating my healthcare costs. Why? Because I said so, dammit!

For those who just need to be benevolently “nudged” away from their disgusting immoral expensive child-abusing fatness:

Solution – Give doctors incentives to help patients lose weight, give tax breaks to joining a gym. Tax bad food based on sugar content, calories and trans fat. No food stamps for crackers, cookies, candy. Remove all coke machines from all our schools. Require P.E. in all our schools. Charge higher insurance premiums based on obesity level.

Finally, a few sane comments, too-few, in the din of hate:

This is great news. Finally the over fed outnumber the under fed. Maybe we will see an end to those photos of undernourished children and maybe they will be replaced with sad pictures of chunky kids with chocolate on their faces. Success!

A decent comment about how inflationary tactics taken by many governments throughout the world increase the price of basic commodities like foodstuffs:

This article is truly unbelievable. They ignorantly try to blame speculative trading and Global Warning for the rise in prices while ignoring the direct cause and effect realtionship of countries weakening their currencies. Put simply, printing more $’s without production gains is simply inflation and commodities such as fuel and grain are the first hit. I guess it just doesn’t fit their model. The heck with the logical correlation, let’s just blame global warming and speculators…. the Big bad people. Wow!

Someone finally observes that obese people can be malnourished/hungry:

Believe it or not, an obese person can also be malnourished at the same time. I am slightly obese, and prior to having a hysterectomy due to years of monthly hemmhoraging, my hemoglbin level was 10, my vitamin D, B12, folate and chromium levels were low – most likely, I was bleeding out everything but calories while I was having unstoppable carbohydrate cravings and consuming too many empty calories. Now my sweet tooth is gone, and my appetite and energy levels are normal. Now I wonder how many other women are experiencing the same thing and why doctors are not diagnosing and treating it.

The glass is half-full, not half-empty:

“Obese now outnumber hungry, says Red Cross”… Let’s think about this for a moment. We have made history… Now if this means there is less hungry people these days, then great! The glass if half full, huh?

My favorite one:

You know you live in a great counrty when people are complaining that the poor are too fat.

Word.

The original article is here. Shame on you, International Federation of the Red Cross.

EDIT: As of right now, Yahoo has been removing some of the worst comments (including some that I copied here). I’m glad I was able to capture the vitriol early-on, though I’m also glad that Yahoo is doing some moderation. Better late than never, I suppose.

EDIT 2: Nope, the awful comments are actually still up on the Yahoo article…read at your own risk. Yahoo, I take back any love I gave you.

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12 comments on “Harvest the Fatties as Horse Meat, and Other Gems of the Moral Panic

  1. It has been said (by someone, I don’t remember) that those who look for Satan with horns, hoofs, and clanging bells will always be fooled, for Satan prefers to come in the guise of angels.

    I have, just now, looked Satan in the face.

  2. Rubyfruit says:

    Cannibalism? Really?

    Yeaaah, that’s about as bad as “Genocide is justified for people in the Fandom Bogeyman of the Day”.

  3. deeleigh says:

    It looks like a lot of the worst comments have been removed from the comments on the Yahoo article.

    Love your new header, BTW!

    • bigliberty says:

      Wow, I didn’t realize that they actually removed the comments. Well, good on Yahoo for doing that. I’m glad, however, that I was able to catch them early. It really does give you the sense for the vitriol that’s out there.

      Thanks for the header kudos! I love Artemisia Gentileschi. What an amazing painter. The image I used was from a self-portrait.

  4. tehomet says:

    JFC. The hatred is almost palpable.

  5. Jen Venegas says:

    Amen to you, honestly. For a huge organization like the RCF to make a comparison like that is incredibly damaging and ill-founded. And this is just one more example of why I don’t read comments on articles like this.

  6. Jackie Yoshi says:

    So, it seems that Soylent Green will be fat people?

    I hope that didn’t seem too insensitive, but I just thought with all the talk of eating fat people above, a Soylent Green joke was in order.

  7. richie79 says:

    This was on the front page of the same edition of the Metro that carried the story about the woman who lost her baby due to WLS. I thought about posting it over at BFB but ran out of time, not to mention I went a bit post-happy over there on what turned out to be ‘Smack-a-fatty Friday’ Round 2 (don’t they just seem to love ruining our weekends with this crap?) The topic of how ‘progressive’ organisations are increasingly shifting the blame for all manner of social ills onto the fat people they see as representatives of greed and overconsumption has been well-covered in the Fatosphere; were it not for the fact that people like having their size prejudices validated the simplistic assumptions behind the latest claims would already have been critically dissected and shown as alarmist.

    However, and as you point out, there’s a clear propaganda, divide-and-rule purpose behind the way in which this has been presented. As in so many previous social witch-hunts (and without invoking Godwin’s Law), the media are very much on the front line of the War on Fat People, moulding and manipulating public opinion in a battle for hearts and minds which is a critical element of justifying the authoritarian legislation they so greatly desire. The increasingly inhuman tone of the comments on so many fora wherever fat is mentioned suggests, unfortunately, that these tactics are very much working. That I am compelled to share public space and oxygen with some who are so twisted and gleeful in their desire for cruelty against other sentient human beings never ceases to concern me.

    Indeed your post reminds me of a run-in I had with the BBC some years ago when they obstinately refused to remove a post advocating fat people be shot and made into petfood on the basis that it didn’t break any of their list of House Rules. Yahoo, on the other hand, doesn’t even seem to make a pretence of moderation, and the trolls and haters are given free rein to attack any they see fit. Were it not for the hassle involved in transferring 12 years worth of messages and contacts (and the equally dubious record of some of the alternatives) I’d dump their email service on principle, but as it is the Red Cross joins the lengthening list of charities who will never receive a penny from me with which to foster prejudice and hatred.

    BTW, I second Deeleigh on the header love. Very Renaissance / Reubenesque.

  8. right, because the millions of people who are starving have absolutely nothing to do with the history of western colonialism, both political and economic, and nothing at all to do with the free market that isn’t so free when wealthy nations (cough, the west) subsidize their farmers to the point where farmers in industrializing nations can’t sell their crops locally and food sits in storage, rotting, because people cannot afford to buy it. nope, nothing to do with that. it’s just me being a greedy pig.

    ugh.

    i am so disgusted.

  9. How can these people keep denying that this is about hatred. It is pure, vicious hatred that I am seeing in those comments.

  10. Cara Hartley says:

    As one person said, fat and malnourished are not necessarily on opposite ends of the spectrum. There are a lot of fat people in the underclasses, and the majority of them are malnourished.
    People tell my I’m paranoid when I say that there are those who would love to round up us fat folk and put us in the showers where Zyklon B came out instead of water. The comments on this article just proved me right, sadly.

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